I mean there was this one lady I remember and tough tomorrow. Rick van de Poll: Well education is the real important thrust of of what all of us do as biologists and Game Managers and to make sure that a things like what Sam was saying that in spite of what you believe the mountain lions will not eat your children they will not steal your pets from your backyard and they will not necessarily be seen by you unless you're extremely lucky. People go through great lengths to create hoaxes like this. And those are not the same things. Michael Brindley is our program manager our producers our Jessica Hunt and Christina Phillips and our theme music was composed by Bob Lord. Gotcha, so the Deep State is suppressing mountain lion news in order to prop up New Hampshire tourism? There's a lot of photographs that you can see that it's very clearly a tabby cat that someone has thought was a mountain lion. Good morning guys. Caller: Are probably. The engineers Dan Colgan our senior producer is Allan Grimm. There was a lot of DNA evidence. We're going to talk a little bit more about habitat first but then we'll get into sightings. The report came in from a conservation officer. The number 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7 so promised a discussion about conspiracy theories. Residents believe cougars still roam New Hampshire's forests - AP NEWS And so. Give today. It all used to be based on measurable physical traits color, skull size, paw size, etc but now its based on whether an animal can be shown to be genetically distinct from others. So. Using DNA and physical evidence, state environmental officials said they determined that the animal. Thank you for visiting the New Hampshire Fish and Game Department website. Residents from Bedford to Berlin have been reporting sightings for years. Patrick Tate New Hampshire Fish and Game Wildlife Biologist thanks very much for being here this morning really appreciate it. Select image for larger view. It's not an emerging endangered species no work no there are there are populations in specific states so the Florida panther is is an endangered species that sub population is in fact listed under the Endangered Species Act. NH Wildlife News and Info | NH Wildlife Theyve always said when we have verifiable evidence to say a mountain lion has been, is, or was in the state that wed acknowledge that and give that information out, says Pat Tate, the furbearer biologist with New Hampshire Fish and Game, who insists theres no conspiracy. So I've been convinced the whole time that I saw a big cougar plume or whatever you want to call it standing there in the road in Greenfield. Pelosi story here we go. Second when I when they did forward it from Wyoming to to Michigan you know this was coming right from sample 18 and 19 had no remarkable differences from known mountain lions from Michigan or Wyoming. History of Mountain Lions in New Hampshire | NH Wildlife He said matter of fact I do. So Pat you field a lot of calls about people seeing or reportedly seeing mountain lions. County road and all of a sudden a big cat jumps out of the woods over a stone wall stood in the middle of the dirt road as I rode towards it. Many people in New Hampshire have claimed to have seen mountain lions. Mike you're on the air. That's next time on one day. So what those ranges. You know I think it's there's a lady Holly Ernst out in California who has done a lot of the genotyping of mountain lions in Northern California the ones that are of course most people have heard about taking down hikers bikers etc. Saddleback Mountain Lions Not one picture of him online while the person meet with us. Peter Biello: Give us a call 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7 you can also send us an email exchange at an HP morgue. The book MAMMAL TRACKS & SIGN by Mark Elbroch has pictures of mountain lion scat found at a multiple beaver kill. 44-N Links. Patrick Tate: It's wow interesting that you brought this up because I've had people report I saw cardamom. Sam what's the incentive for the government to deny allegedly. Peter Biello: We got an e-mail question from Robert in Epsom who asks are sightings or encounters with these big cats less dangerous here where they're passing through than out west where those same mountain lines might be establishing territory Rick. People have asked me about the genetics of eastern mountain lion. They don't know the direction they're going. You could trace that was this same cat from point to point to point. Mountain Lions in New England: Sightings, Science & Bobcat vs Mountain Lion And that the Florida panther was more closely related to the eastern outline than the western mountain lion was. We discuss what residents may have been seeing and what breeding mountain lion pairs would mean for our ecosystem. So that that's more or less I think why I'm here and why I got into this in nineteen ninety nine I found a what appeared to be a print of a mountain lion and that was in the Osprey mountains and I thought well OK that's that's a print. But before I go any further I want to say we do not have sufficient game. I think that you probably are. We'll hear more about the mountain lions impact and the role it plays in the ecosystem. support for an HBO who comes from you our listener Sam from advanced in you a local New Hampshire nonprofit specializing in college student loans and student refinancing options. Fish and Wildlife Service decided all of the cougars, pumas, and mountain lions in the country are actually the same species, and that species hasnt had a breeding population anywhere near the Northeast for at least 70 years. Lots of people have stories about them, people have them on their game cameras I mean its kind of a thing. We're gonna cue you up and bring into the program listeners in just a moment but I want to ask about the role that Mountain Lions play in the ecosystem we've been talking a lot about mountain lions traveling and being sort of hard to track as they move. I'm Peter Biello in for Laura NOI. But I do think that it's appropriate that a fishing game agency would recognize verifiable proof if they could. Peter Biello: So let's say Rick that it was confirmed that there that there are mountain lines here in New Hampshire. So I know it's another unconfirmed report but you string enough of these together. Rick van de Poll: Well a report that you know as John Harrigan up north has in co-ops County for about 15 years I kept track of reports and people would call me and tell me where they saw the mountain lion they thought they saw it and it varied right from you know downtown villages all the way to remote highlands of the North Country and and everywhere in between. Patrick Tate: Yes. Patrick Tate: Okay. I actually been interviewed a couple of times by reporters and with all due respect for the media you know facts aren't always communicated correctly. These were normal everyday folks. Peter Biello: Well I want to ask Patrick about one of these stories a few years ago you had a story about someone who claimed to. So and so they so they do get pretty involved. As wildlife biologists, wed be fascinated to say 'look look what was found in our state.'. Peter Biello: Oh okay. New Hampshire Public Radio | We've met Fish and Game's BURDEN OF PROOF. Mountain lions remain an enigmatic animal for residents of New Hampshire, with New Hampshire Fish and Game reporting three to five sightings per week. That's the real story is they can't follow up on every one of these sightings. N.H. Residents Report Mountain Lion Sighting - NECN Some of the reports that I looked into that were actually on file at the local fish and game office were even from people who did not live locally. HOLDERNESS, N.H. (AP) Two of the known mountain lions in New Hampshire have spent their 15 years in close proximity to humans. Peter Biello: Yeah some of what she was saying sounds like it would require getting pretty close or at least having a nice zoom lens right Sam like. That's too big for Bobcat. Monday, December 5th: Mountain Lions in New Hampshire? Part I Mountain lion or cat running across. From "History of New Hampshire Game and Furbearers" by Helenette Silver, Research Clerk, NH Fish and Game Dept. First off if the standard for an agency to go forward with the public and put out a press release that them outlines here their believers are going to say I told you they'd been here the whole time. And so I just wanted to share my share my experience with you guys and it was pretty awesome to see if you get to see one albeit it was in the brush. So what counts as verifiable evidence? They create these scrapes where theyre communicating with each other with scent. 1 800 8 9 2 6 4 7 7. Which brings us to the next question, what are the odds that some of these reported sightings (which, when I posted about this on twitter, I immediately started to get as well) are actually people seeing a mountain lion? Administrative Links. So it's there was no question in my mind. So you know until I found those two scats I didn't think that mountain lions were here in the east. The supervisor that hired me in the game division in October of 1978 passed on to me this whole big folder of mountain lion information and sightings going back probably a couple decades. And why would they what. We have evidence and as biologists we would find it quite exciting to find that evidence of one in the state. Theres a project called the Cougar Network that tracks verified sightings, and they are all around us: Massachusetts, Connecticut, Maine, New York and New Brunswick have all had verified sightings over the past 20 years or so. I can't tell you what you saw but it sounds like a mountain lion. Sam Evans-Brown: But I mean the video I had been sent was you know a recording of a animal growling but it was in slow motion and when I asked the person why is this in slow motion the denied that it was so there's a lot of weird stuff that happens in regards to people claiming they've seen they've seen these things. Because I mean as we've heard in the past 10 minutes like there's there's some disagreement or at least some some vagueness about what an actual mountain lion should appear like in the wild assuming we can even get close enough. The tail leave is a giveaway but not everybody gets to see the tail.
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