Astutes dont need to surface to receive Comms, they are more then capable of receiving them whilst deep. I agree that its a risk, but one which they appear to be content to manage.. Much as he did in Syria . There are only two roads from Crimea that could be blocked or destroyed, a potential weakness, he said. Initially other then a echo sounder suite for navigation which is a safety requirement, there are no current plans for a ASW fit on the T31s, for the reasons you have stated. A mere 3 BGs in total and designed just to reassure the people of Poland, Latvia and Lithuania. Regime change? what about nato members bulgaria and romania? Dont want to show my age but I remember reading about the Ropucha class as a schoolboy in the 80s. I think Irans aspirations in the region run much deeper than having mild cooperation with Russia. The Ivan Gren-class can transport 40 BTRs or IFVs and 300 troops. Our potential foes are very clever and will exploit gaps. The Russian strongman will be sending warships within Ireland's maritime economic zone - around 240km off the southwest cost of Ireland. Western countries deem the Crimea to be part of Ukraine and reject Russia's claim to the seas around it. Rocks?' Add in SPEAR EW, which will be an air launched jammer, creating false targets, and the bad guys are going to have a veryRead more . But why would Russia deployed troops in Iraq 2003 to save Despot Sadams skin? Those deliveries are ongoing, and there are more scheduled in the coming weeks.. Britain said Russia was giving an inaccurate account of the incident. Two weeks ago nearly a dozen warships and combat aircraft from Russia's Northern, Baltic and Black Sea fleets gave a "show of force in the waters off the British and Irish coasts" General . Commander Philip Harper, Severn's commanding officer, said: "In very challenging conditions with rough weather, Severn and several other British and allied ships have spent 20 days ensuring that Russian transiting warships remain under our watchful eyes.". Trump was right about Germany being too dependent upon Russian gas and some EU states not spending enough on defence. When we need European Allies like France and Germany, where are they. Britain disputed the Russian version of events, with Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab calling it "predictably inaccurate". Clever move, and itll be Trumps fault the Russians invade on Bidens watch. Sean, Where is this wharf in Australia? HMS Lancaster joined Severn tracking Steregushchiy-class corvette Boikiy in the Channel and using its Wildcat helicopter to gather intelligence. Your posts are very aggressive. US coast guard confirms Chinese and Russian warships off Alaska Dictators will at any cost hold onto power. "I am sure that such a powerful weapon will allow us to reliably protect Russia from potential external threats and help ensure our country's national interests. Like wise the Danse could blockade the Baltic as well. I meant a small number combat troops postured to help the Ukranians defend themselves. The Ropucha-class landing ship can transport 10 main battle tanks and 340 troops or 12 BTRs and 340 troops or 3 main battle tanks, 3 2S9 Nona-S, 5 MT-LBs, 4 army trucks and 313 troops or 500 tons of cargo. Chechen warlord 'seriously ill' but refuses to call Russian doctors 'The operatives are trained in urban warfare and using explosives to carry out acts of sabotage against Russia's own proxy forces. ', After their meeting, State Department spokesman Ned Price warned the West was ready to impose 'crippling costs on Russias economy' if Putin chooses the path of 'further aggression.'. US is now flying in warlike items to Ukraine. I wouldnt imagine it would be allowed under international law. More info. T31 is being procured to a strict budget, to get these vessels built and in service pretty quick, and we can upgrade once in service if the need requires it, they are large, and will be a very flexible design allowing more kit to be integrated over the years. An analogy would be how the small number of US troops placed in both Syria and Afghanistan deterred attackers until they were removed andlook what follows. Time to send some Astutes to the Med for target practice! In a meaningful way I mean putting forces on the ground and in the air. Idiocy. "There is nothing unusual here: it is commonplace, but this time the ship is equipped with the latest hypersonic rocket system Zircon, which has no match. U.S. officials have said Russia might attack Ukraine as early as this month when the ground will be harder, making it easier for tanks and other armour to move swiftly. UK could learn a few things by this process and not immediately scrap stuff. If this new cold war turns into something nasty, our T45 should have something better than Harpoon to engage enemy ships. As they have plenty of gear around Ukraine already it makes sense that at least some of the 6 are bound for Tartus. However, the IDF has a long standing policy of refusing to confirm or deny allegations ofRead more . (NATO will do nothing without US Support) Alternatively, NATO could station aircraft in Ukraine bordering countries and work with the Ukrainian AF to secure Ukraine airspace again daring Putin to attack NATO Aircraft. F35 will also receive SPEAR 3 which also has anti ship capability. Did he deserve any sympathy? The big question is-could this conflict once started, and if NATO do get involved, be limited to a conventional battle? "Despite the increase in Russian activity, both on the surface and underwater, we are always ready to respond.". General Carter also said the long anticipated Integrated Review of Foreign, Defence and Security policy, now expected in January, will herald the biggest shake-up of the army in a generation. In this second scenario NATO troops/aircraft dont even need to be in Ukraine thereby making it difficult for Putin to complain. Britain seems to be the only Western power doing anything regarding the imminent Russian invasion of Ukraine. Im for one are hoping cool heads prevail. Agreed. 'We're now at a stage where Russia could at any point launch an attack in Ukraine, and what Secretary Blinken is going to go do is highlight very clearly there is a diplomatic path forward. There is also a chance of that senario, Trouble is it is Trumps policies towards NATO ( even threatening to leave it) and distaste for Europe that has given the impetus to Putin to try this on. Russian warships pass through English Channel - UK Defence Journal The anti-tank weapon systems weve sent out recently are a welcome contribution alongside the stuff the US sent out last year, but much more should have been done and long before now. It comes after UK dfence chiefs said yesterday they fear Putin will opt for the 'nightmare scenario' of a full invasion of Ukraine as tensions rise towards tipping point. SAMs/ASMs/AAMs mostly new plus a handfull of big ticket items but the vast majority are just 40 year old designs with a new paint job and go faster stripes. Dissapointed in Macron, but cant say im surprised. The conclusion was that Tiger stood the better chance due to her 6 turret being mostly electrically powered rather than hydraulic, like Blakes, so the presumption was shed be more reliable. By Sam Greenhill Chief Reporter for the Daily Mail. Surely you mean the Syrians? There is currently another Russian flotilla heading for the Med, this time the flagship cruiser and escort from their Pacific Fleet. 679215 Registered office: 1 London Bridge Street, London, SE1 9GF. Assassinations of nuclear experts. I think you have hit the nail on the head. Royal Navy shadows NINE Russian warships around UK coast in just 2 weeks Certainly, if small, but it isnt going to be sinking any frigates or destroyers let alone a cruiser many of which are being fitted with anti shell or missile weapons. Very old school looking set up and equipment. Once there they re establish the picture. Almost all forms of sanctions being discussed have a greater blowback potential on both Europe and the US than their damage on Russia. We have Astute, which is the finest anti ship weapon in the world, along with NATO and allied nuclear boats, its enough toRead more . Unfortunately we are in a poor starting position militarily, as is most of NATO if things escalate. It is very obvious where they are going, staring you right into your eyes!! The Russian ships' 'highly irregular' movements sparked Swedish authorities to deploy hundreds of troops and armoured vehicles to the island of Gotland. A Russian ship that's been off the coast of Hawaii for weeks is With what? Certainly Ivan is getting very desperate now with the prop.! Also the Blockade the Atlantic Iceland gap. Dont think its just down to initial build costs either, providing a crew for the kit and paying for them over the lifetime of the ship/s probably has a bearing on this issue too. Thanks Mark it just seems that the way that some outlets are reporting this ongoing story ,could in fact do more damage than good .As with some people on these threads ,that are goading eachother into what better weapons would do the most damage ,when the most destructive weapon is their Mouse/keyboard I know its just keyboard banter but my God theres some who really do want it too kick off. Dont forget its got a great habit of hitting other random stuff like holiday homes or your best mates frigate. The Sun website is regulated by the Independent Press Standards Organisation (IPSO), Our journalists strive for accuracy but on occasion we make mistakes. However there is some good reports if you know where to look. I somehow doubt it. As for the numbers unvaccinated, I know Putins trolls have been stoking that fire with conspiracy theories about the vaccines. Russia plans to deploy KALIBR capability on all new design construction nuclear and non-nuclear submarines, corvettes, frigates, and larger surface ships. RNs lack of AsUW is a gamble, otherwise why retain harpoon? I think Putin is going to have to attack or look weak. He sees weakness and disharmony and a split America with half the voters seeing thier Country as an island totally ignorant of what losing Europe would mean to the US position in the World. The USA didnt pick UkraineRead more . The NATO Allied Maritime Command is "closely monitoring" Russian frigate Admiral Gorshkov, it said in a tweet with a photo of the warship. The diplomat hit out at Germany for failing to match Britain's offer of military aid, with Berlin preferring to focus on the threat of sanctions. Yes, its certainly a complex situation, aided no doubt by a perceived weakness of the US, which is currently very poorly led and has been for several years. UK and French jets team up against simulated aerial threat, Britain, Italy and Japan merge combat aircraft projects. Yes theyve probably done more to modernise than laggards such as Argentine or Germany, but in conventional terms the European members of NATO alone could militarily contain Russia without Americas help. EDIT spelling corrections. Zelensky thanked Blinken on Twitter after their meeting and said he was counting on stronger 'economic& financial' cooperation from the West. The Ropucha-class landing ship can transport 10 main battle tanks and 340 troops or 12 BTRs and 340 troops or 3 main battle tanks, 3 2S9 Nona-S, 5 MT-LBs, 4 army trucks and 313 troops or 500 tons of cargo. The assessment, seen by CNN, described the situation as 'difficult' and warned Russian President Vladimir Putin was 'trying to split and weaken the European Union and NATO' while also 'limiting the capabilities of the United States to ensure security on the European continent'. I stand by my comments and time will tell. The task group were joined by RAF Typhoon and F-35s jets, plus tankers RFA Tideforce and RFA Tiderace. Whilst we (NATO) wont be firing shots, theres a massive amount that can be done with regards to intelligence and weapon supply that, arguably should have been done a month ago. First Sea Lord Admiral Tony Radakin said: "This is why the Royal Navy is at sea every day, protecting the UK and our interests. In an announcement on Monday, the agency said the surprise. How would you like me to paint Corbin and Johnson with the same brush? The target selection technology provides NSM with a capacity for independent detection, recognition, and discrimination of targets at sea or on the coast. So were Western economies corrupt, going back in time. It said Russia had deployed 36 Iskander launchers, weapons capable of hitting targets up to 700km away, near Ukraine and said the medium-range missiles that could be used to 'destroy vital objects'. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-01-03/kremlin-insider-klyushin-is-said-to-have-2016-hack-details. They are not a golden bullet. The talks between the two diplomats came just a day after Russia unveiled plans for naval drills involving more than 140 warships and more than 60 aircraft, seen as a show of strength. Russkie pension, weekly bucket of spuds and one litre of 2 stroke. I doubt it. Akin to RAF doing away with Meteor, ASRAAM and sticking to Mauser. He told officials the UK stood shoulder-to-shoulder with the Baltic state a Nato ally. Etc, etc. In comarison with previous pictures those ships are sailing well loaded. 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I think youre forgetting the Enhanced Forward Presence incl Canadians, Spaniards, Portuguese, Italians, Romainians, Slovaka, Czechs, Danes, Norgies, Albanians, Slovenes, Italians, Germans, French and may have missed one or two just saying like. And if we enter a shooting war with Russia. Last night a senior defence source said: 'We strongly believe [Putin's] preference is for a full invasion rather than a limited offensive. Historical animosity towards the Russians. I doubt you can stand at all given the amount of hallucinogens you must be partaking. https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2022/01/us-sends-more-military-equipment-ukraine/361042/  With the clown we have as PM? Sounds like we havent learned any lessons from history! lol. Russia released footage filmed from a Russian SU-24 bomber flying close to the British ship. 14:30 GMT 20 Jan 2022. Something will give as you cannot maintain an army at this sort of readiness indefinitely. 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As to Corbin(Corbyn) and American born Johnson, well in my opinion Corbyn is poison and Johnson is a clown beyond redemption Regards Geoff(who is btw an ardent Americophile), Douglass post about this being Bidens fault instead of Putin and his yes men is just not true and I dont think its the time to encourage them. 'Clearly the preferable path, clearly the most responsible path and the one that we would prefer, but there is also the path if Russia chooses to renew aggression, of conflict, confrontation and consequences for Russia,' Blinken said. Europe? No, but it would be interesting to know what Circumstances would trigger that. I'm sure there will be no decision about [Ukraine] without [Ukraine],' he wrote. UK, US and some Baltic states seem to be the only ones that seem they maybe willing to fight. Stand by to be surprised. Russian Navy Landing Ships Seen Approaching Ukrainian Coast Near Odessa Ryabkov, referring to Moscow's version of events in which a Russian aircraft bombed the path of the British destroyer, said that in future bombs would be sent "not only in its path, but also on target.". My good friend and neighbour, an ex USN chief engineer on subs is a mildly Right of Centre Republican but even he voted for Biden in the last election. 'Dangerous moment': Russian naval buildup near Ukraine - POLITICO Russian deputy Defence Minister Alexander Fomin confirmed that the mission includes the relocation of two S-400 mobile surface to air missile battalions, a Pantsir-S battalion and 12 Su-35 fighters for the 'surprise' inspection and drills. The vessels were found by Naval News with the help of Damien Symon, an independent defense analyst. Whether hell succeed with his military distraction where General Galtieri failed with this strategy is open to question. The U.S. Coast Guard cutter Kimball and its commander, Capt. The proliferation of this capability within the new Russian Navy is profoundly changing its ability to deter, threaten or destroy adversary targets. Or how much BS the kremlin comes up with, I think RT chat forum is your home you have many friends there Ivan lol. The result is a net drop in drivers. TheRead more . But Russia? Also most of that Russian buildup is into barracks so not suffering. Genuine question did Ukraine have 100% complete control of the USSR nuclear weapons that had been stationed in its territory? Their Intel also saying that they see no particular problem. Unless of course you are a Putin oligarch;0). Their fears of nuclear led them to basically willingly put puppet strings on a number of important decisions the country will have to make. However, it does look like everybody is going to fight back. The two Russian vessels in the video released Wednesday are the first the military has announced operating off Hawaii since the new year. looking at the satellite images of the Rusian camps near the boarder. Ukraine warns Russia has 'almost completed' build-up of forces near border - CNN. A longer-range version would also be welcome, Ive discussed the advantages short to medium term of NSM/JSM as well as Block V Tomahawk, particularly now that both Russia and China have joint interests in the North Atlantic. Sheer incompetence being the only major navy in the world to not have AsUW capability beyond a 4.5 pea shooter. In new training drills yesterday, three dozen Russian warplanes including Su-34 fighter-bombers, Su-25 attack aircraft and MiG-31 fighter-interceptors flew from airfields in Perm, Krasnoyarsk,. Look what we did to help France in WW1/2. Trump isnt the president now, its Biden. Giving his annual speech to the Royal United Services Institute, the Defence chief said: They are flexing their muscles in our own back yard with an ostentation they have not displayed since the Cold War. A string of government websites was hacked on Friday. means nothing until they are in the fleet, weve got more warships but the admiralty and the M.O.D cant see beyond their arrogance 5 more rivers given the thai navy upgrades to their batch 2 KRABI i.e a 76 otto melara rapid fire gun which was chosen ahead of the raytheon ram 116 system two extra 30mm cannon located aft of the bridge wings with the option of martlet sometime in the future otions to fit harpoon, these are real warships and we should do the same and designate them as corvettes or light frigates add 5 more warships to todays number of 19, then, 24 ships soundsRead more , reasonable place to forward base a t31 maybe. What sonar or anti submarine equipment will t31 possess? NSM is able to navigate by GPS, inertial and terrain reference systems. Which could be read either way. All it takes is for 1 to get through! Do you have a link on that drawdown, havent seen that comment before? That was not my point: NATO has antied up and put boots on the ground, who are prepared to fight. Supplying intel and light weapons will not change the outcome much , Russia will win regardless of the losses shell receive. There was a table top exercise done by the Navy back in the late 80s. On western side it was concern that with the post Soviet economic collapse theyd end up in very dodgy countries hands. Our SSNs will be busy chasing their SSNs, and so each RN surface vessel should be capable of offensive action. In a call to Mr Lavrov, Mr Blinken 'stressed the importance of continuing a diplomatic path to de-escalate tensions'. A Russian military ship armed with hypersonic missiles has sailed through the Strait of Dover, the narrowest part of the English Channel - only a few miles away from the English coast. Clearly I could be wrong on this. Please leave a comment below if you have something to say! The official warned the Kremlin: 'Our message, and that of our allies and partners, is that Russia has two choices: diplomacy and de-escalation, or escalation and massive consequences. The other question which has been posed before-if the Ukraine had not given up its nukes, would Russia risk starting a fight with them? Ties between London and Moscow have been on ice since the 2018 poisoning with a Soviet-developed nerve agent known as Novichok of ex-double agent Sergei Skripal, a mole who betrayed hundreds of Russian agents to Britain's MI6 foreign spy service. Any toys the RN requires would magical appear on the Quay side, and the funds suddenly available. Certainly surprised Germany seems so acquiescent about potentially putting itself back on the front line with only Poland as that buffer again. We will see who is right in a month or two. Id call it a battle group wholly equipped with obsolete AFVs. It requires us to hold their backyard at risk, whether thats in the Barents Sea, the High North, the Baltic or the Black Sea.. Hi Robert. The RN has learned many lessons over the years, have a little faith. Putin has been blowing smoke about NATO having significant forces in countries bordering Russia, but really they are minimal. return to the tri nations agreement of 1899!! I know Sean but she would certainly Grind Vlad Putin down, Thats true enough, she grinds me down and I accept the science behind climate change!! 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I think itRead more , Hi Dave ,knife through Butter with todays build of warships we can but dream a larger build of Destroyer with 6in either single or twin fully Auto good fire control radar no need for the old 274/75 sights or LAS just ops Rm fire controller and PWO but alas smaller ships and bores seem too be the way fwd with The MOD. Well on your point about coming to Ukraines aid in any meaningful way, I would disagree to an extent. Likewise the presence of Nato tripwire forces might just persuade Russian planners to step back. " Russian warship, go fuck yourself " [a] was the last communication made on 24 February 2022 during the Russian attack on Snake Island in Ukraine's territorial waters by border guard Roman Hrybov to the Russian missile cruiser Moskva. https://www.janes.com/defence-news/naval-weapons/latest/turkish-navy-commissions-first-intelligence-gathering-ship. The seven Russian ships - two frigates, three corvettes and two landing ships - were initially tracked by HMS Tyne, an offshore patrol craft. I cant believe Putin seriously wants to invade Ukraine he would lose far more than he gained.